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En, don’t you think that each of the two biases simply represents a “specialization” aimed at translating “quantity” into “quality”? In the sense that upon reaching at least one of the components of a certain activation threshold, all being “transitions” to the “next level,” even if only relying on one side. To give a concrete example, let’s take an analogy from the animal world: once there was a group of lizards that largely ignored developing strength, size, hardness of skin, and the like. And completely focused on jumping abilities, which transitioned into the ability to fly and turned them into birds. Compared to some t-rexes, the ancestors of birds were horrifically unbalanced and in some aspects deficient. However, where are those t-rexes now, and where are the birds, which generally still are not very balanced as a class? Similarly, one can come up with examples from human society, when a single talent of a person ‘pulls’ them to a higher society than the one they would reach by birthright/education, etc. And already this environment ‘pulls’ the lagging spheres of the person under itself, having accepted them for one ‘talent.’ Yes, the person is unlikely ever to fully compensate for his lag in the framework of the new ‘level.’ Yet the environment is likely to help him develop all his sides more than he could if he focused on that one ‘talent’ and developed everything uniformly. And surely this has been a winning strategy for his descendants who already existed at a new level quite ‘by right.’ This note, of course, is purely pragmatic. Ideally, of course, one could say that the traveler ‘should strive,’ ‘should be able to’ and so on. But I have a vague feeling that, say, a sorcerer who has pulled their energy to the level of direct communication with the Gods will just naturally pull their ‘understanding’ further against their will than if they evenly distributed their efforts and pulled neither here nor there. Human resources and the time of incarnation are quite limited, and you can’t do everything. And there is a similar feeling that for the next incarnation it can be very beneficial to have at least one significant ‘breakthrough’ in the assets than a uniform movement across all fronts. I emphasize – this is a discussion of options, not a critique of the idea as such.
The example with birds is hardly a successful one, since their ancestors didn’t “concentrate” on anything, just the ones who jumped better or hid better survived and passed on their offspring, so the situation here is as if the reverse – in such a survival of the fittest context, it’s about the formative influence of the environment, and the article talks about one’s own efforts of the being. Of course, from this perspective, descendants are better adapted than their ancestors; however, again, that’s not the point. One should not confuse the development of talent with falling into extremes. Talents, gifts, benedictums (more about them: https://en.enmerkar.com/magus-way/svoj-dar) are manifestations of nature, what should naturally be developed. But the problem precisely lies in the fact that in both of the biases, there simply isn’t any source to draw for development, as all resources available are ‘transferred’ to one of the sides. The conversation is not about ‘progressing across all fronts,’ but about the totality of development. The issue is that a sorcerer ‘stretching’ towards communication with the gods without understanding will never reach such communication, since instead of growth, only a change in the configuration of the existing structure will take place. And here the analogy may not be with biological evolution, but, say, with the wings of an airplane – it is pointless to think that if one wing of the airplane is large and sturdy, while the other is weak and holey, then the airplane can ‘sustain’ itself on one wing. If the number of resources does not allow for building two wings, then you need to seek these resources, to extract them, rather than throw everything possible into building one, hoping that the other will somehow ‘automatically be there.’ This is what it’s about – it’s about finding Power, and only then applying it. One needs to increase the resource pool, and only then distribute them.
Yes, then your opinion is clearer. I personally just had the feeling that the article criticizes specialization as such. Perhaps this is just my feeling. But nevertheless, it’s better to voice it and discuss it – who knows if I am not the only one.
Regarding the evolution theories presented – it turned out to be quite funny. Dear Zarach, you essentially described Lamarckism, and dear Enmerkar – Darwinism. But the thing is that there is another theory – it is the theory of total programming of evolution. And this directly concerns the idea of development in general. For some reason, this idea is immediately rejected as unviable, and simply because it is extremely unpleasant, not because it is impossible. If everything is programmed – then the very meaning of Freedom as such is lost. There is only Maya – we can only pretend to be moving towards freedom and to choose what is real and what is extreme. Although everything then is equivalent. And the reason that this is possible is at least in what has been disheartening me lately. Our memory is limited! Who can remember where they originally came from? One can, of course, recall ‘past lives,’ and even if those aren’t hallucinations – who has managed to dive into this immersion to their ‘initial point’? And if there’s no complete memory – then how can judgments be made and accurately forecast what will follow? We can only play. And in the Game, all sorts of things happen… But it’s just disheartening – the impossibility to remember everything.
One can perceive programming not as something static and two-dimensional, but as the presence of potentials at any point of existence of the subject. That is, the potential for a person at any of their points to become a bird is extremely small, too remote from him (although it cannot be said that at the very highest level this is absolutely impossible), yet the potential to become a fundamentally different person, to expand one’s consciousness far beyond its confines, is quite available at each point.
The only freedom to which we may wish to move 🙂 – is the Freedom of Consciousness from the Body – almost the same as the Salvation of the Soul that Christianity preaches. Consciousness is free in itself, how it thinks about itself :). The only problem is that Consciousness – is a Product of the Body…………. You say you don’t remember the beginning of yourself, while some in the evening can’t remember what they had for breakfast because of sclerosis, damaged vessels……. As the body fades – consciousness fades………………………………….. Once in the mountains, dead magicians told me a story that the life of a person is like an Ouroboros. The existence of a person is similar to the existence of a World Whirlwind……… At a certain moment, human consciousness stops expanding, old age arrives – the Ouroboros begins to devour its tail. That is, the spiraling flow begins to reduce in diameter until it turns into a point, marking the transition from being to non-being (Death)…. further the “rope twists” without the possibility of expansion, without the possibility of accommodating anything new (The Dead only tell of the past, of past events, of their knowledge acquired during life – and only those who have managed to maintain a certain degree of spiral shape in their flow, the Ouroboros, at the moment of transition to non-being, do not completely devour their tail…. and then comes the moment of the next manifestation – the conception of a person and the whole thread of their non-being takes the form of a spiral, which smoothly expands (the Ouroboros releases their tail from their mouth) Ideally – the Free One – is the one who only expands – but human destiny does not provide for this………….. Thus the Free One – is a Non-Human – a kind of other being, transformed energy of the human body into another form of energy, independent of temperature, food, water, sleep, satisfaction of physiological needs………………………………….. if you look at the Ouroboros of a person from the side, not from the top – it resembles an egg, a capsule formed by the spiral flow…….. Capsules of Lives alternate with segments of Deaths ….. as if beads of being strung on the thread of non-being……… “Beginning” and “End” can be at any point. Although “point” – is also a metaphor……… Remember how it is written in the Bible – I Am Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and the End………………… The Universe (according to astronomers 🙂 ) continues to expand but certainly not by itself, but thanks to all its living cells – individual consciousnesses..
For the control of such balance, there is a Teacher. Maxim: during the passage of the gates of life/death, there is a too great loss of energy, hence the loss of memory. Moreover, according to those who are revived after death, they will never forget that pain. Starting everything from a clean slate… there is a certain benefit in that.
Numen, you are reading my thoughts directly) Today I was thinking a lot about the edge of life/death (even after my comment). I have thought a lot, but to write here – this is not my blog, it might not be decent. But I just say: if there is no complete memory – then there is also no full freedom. If I don’t know where I am from – it means that the possibility of my complete programming, as well as everyone’s, is not excluded. Someone plays us, and that’s all. Although it is also not excluded to attempt to understand and ‘have the chance to have a chance.’ We are somehow able to ask these questions. And if we are able to ask a question – we are also able to understand the answer.
In the context of the discussed Myth, when we talk about freedom, it implies, among other things, freedom from “I,” since where there is “I” – there inevitably is “not-I,” and where there is “I” and “not-I” – there is interaction, limitations, and hence – unfreedom. Memory is just a tool for supporting such a private “I,” and in this sense, in my view, it is not a condition, but – an obstacle to freedom. Freedom is the independence of the flow of consciousness, devoid of all self-identifications, existing as awareness “by itself,” without private attachments. In this sense, the answer to the question “who am I?” would certainly include both “I am everything,” and “I am nothing,” although even the pronoun itself is already completely inappropriate. The conditional continuity of the individual flow of consciousness, transitioning from incarnation to incarnation, is thus maintained precisely because it is unfree, has unfinished business, various attachments (https://en.enmerkar.com/magus-way/pochemu-vrashhaetsya-koleso-zhizni), and therefore – “under-identifies” with embodied states, maintaining some connection with them (what is usually called “karma,” or “retribution” – https://en.enmerkar.com/magus-way/vozdayanie-po-zaslugam). By “finishing,” completing implementations, exhausting their cognitive significance, consciousness frees itself from attachments to them, and ideally – achieves full liberation. And in the article, I wanted to draw attention to the fact that for such liberation, one must develop totally, firstly increasing the size of the “vessel,” kli, rather than trying to “squeeze” everything out in one direction, not exhausting all available resources on one area of realizations, because then, on the principle of a pendulum, they will still ultimately have to realize the second side, and since there are no longer resources for this – we become captives of the necessity to seek these resources, meaning – we reduce the degree of our freedom.
Do you know any person who has gained Freedom as the independence of the flow of consciousness, devoid of all self-identifications and existing as awareness ‘by itself,’ without private attachments?
Krishnamurti
Interesting, does the Idea of Freedom you describe include Freedom From Words and Freedom From Ideas? – if yes, then Freedom, in principle, is Inexpressible, and if no, then the Idea of Freedom is at least dependent on the way it is expressed and transmitted outside of consciousness.. It turns out that the Mind (Consciousness) generates Ideas, believes in their correctness, and strives to conform to the Idea, while the Body, as the conduit of consciousness, does not understand that state of itself, that process which will lead it to the absence of body, absence of I. In my opinion, the attempt to get rid of Ego is akin to trying to rip the spine out of a living being.. How can there be Awareness if there is no one to be aware? “Flow” is already Something that identifies itself as a flow. And Where does this Awareness occur? Everywhere and Nowhere? In the world of people and in the distant cosmos simultaneously? In the tales of V. Megre, Anastasia could move as a Beam and even with her Whole Body into the life events of different people on Earth and on other planets while living in a forest, in a bear’s den. But she did not come out of the forest and did not reveal her personal example to the world.. I remember the story that about a hundred years ago a group of magicians made a Leap to Freedom from the top of a well-known mountain…… It’s interesting why a System dictating specific Action Images, conducive to Transformation, has not been preserved. Why did Power not choose successors? Or did it choose, but they could not handle the task? – after all, some of the chosen ones, despite suitable energy configuration, can only finish the Line.. Blavatsky had an emblem: inside the Ouroboros – Merkabah in cross-section (hexagram) – “A Wheel Within A Wheel,” but Blavatsky’s bones have long rotted in the ground… The Dead on the mountains showed me a slightly different scheme (I sent it to you once): inside the Ouroboros – a swastika with 17 points, rotating in the opposite direction, preventing the Ouroboros from devouring its tail, explaining that the points are people – the swastika embodies a Group…………. but the dead themselves could not use the scheme – they could only exchange it for the life energy of a resonating medium. …I want Viable Ideas (I do not mean you personally, as every Mind is capable of generating Ideas) Otherwise it turns out that people or “Magicians” have contemplated the Wise, and then donned suits, boarded transports, and went to work (even if they sell magical services) – living the life of a social person, dependent and doomed to accept human fate.. Well, or take the Enlightened ones, whose state is “impossible to imitate” – Sai Baba, for example, was considered a great spiritual teacher and enlightened. Some, coming to him, tore their passports as an expression of liberating themselves from I, from personality – entering the atmosphere of the biopoly of Sai Baba, feeling the Grace emanating from him………. but Sai Baba died, as did Sri Aurobindo, as did many other Enlightened and Developed Consciousnesses….
Tavita Shauta, your thoughts are very interesting to me. As long as people are alive – there is hope to find exits. I am looking for Viable Ideas. Ready to discuss them. Is there any way to also get that scheme of the Ouroboros? Thank you.
Max, you don’t need to look. People are wonderful in that they have a very rare gift – we are capable of generating and embodying ideas. This is what drives our world. Look closely at any symbol regardless of its complexity and try to see (understand) its “complexity.” The understanding that arises will indeed be yours, bearing your unique shade of individuality, understanding of Reality regarding that symbol.
One of the meanings embedded by the Almighty in life lies precisely in the multifaceted vision of identical processes.
“People are wonderful in that they have a very rare gift – we are capable of generating ideas and embodying them.” Oh, if only… Only a few are capable of generating ideas. (The rest just copy/transfer/modify/retrieve them from the ether.) Those capable of embodying ideas here – and even fewer.
Of course. Write. We will discuss. eva8039@yandex.ua …………….there is a desire to create an intellectual club under the aegis of the Idea of Transformation..
Tavita Shauta, may I ask how to discuss ideas with you if you ignore them? ————————— Well, just say it, you are looking for a solution for yourself, and everyone else doesn’t interest you. That would be more honest. Or, say you will discuss ideas only with those who personally please you. That would also be honest. (And there’s nothing wrong with that.)
Stanislav, I suggest we take the Personal matters outside the scope of this blog. If you want to help (not with words, but with deeds) in creating an intellectual club – Circle of Power, considering your abilities and professional skills, then welcome – please write to me at the above address.
Ha, Ekaterina, why should I help you if * I have already created my club. * I personally invited you there, if I remember correctly. (Moreover, it seems to be one of the first.) * And you ignored that invitation. * I created the club for all with (almost) free access, without personal ambitions. * And the activities there have not ceased. * And, by the way, about those 17… more like 12, I wrote about them myself, (didn’t you read?) and we discussed them several times. That’s why I don’t understand what you are doing, and how you are behaving. Agreed, that’s strange. At first, you discuss with me what you want to do and how, then we see what is needed for this, then I make a similar thing myself, as I had that opportunity. And I invite you there. Then you disappear and don’t respond. Didn’t you hear about ishpere? (An internet portal for collective discussion and idea generation.) I planned to create it in 2015. But later I gave up on it. Because (read above), there are catastrophically few people who are really capable of generating ideas. So, indeed, I am busy with deeds. (And not just one.) And I am puzzled why I would suddenly want to waste my time on what already exists? That’s why I’m asking you: what interests you – you personally? Your personal acquaintances? Circle of Power for you personally? And discussions with those you personally like? Or something else? What interests you? Owning your own club? Of which there are more than enough, and the egos of the owners have worn out their welcome? Or are you interested in Ideas, regardless of who personally is their source? And their practical application in the real world? Should I write to you? No, Ekaterina, this time you write to me. titeo@bk.ru Please answer these questions and do not evade answering. Well, wherever you please. Here or by email. And we will sort out the comments there if it comes to that.
And a few words about the article itself. Apparently, it does not seem that only I found it extremely difficult, but at the same time extremely important. After reading it several times, it seems I understood the main leitmotif: before taking action – one needs to become someone. Ideally, both wings of the airplane should be built in parallel, simultaneously. But this does not always happen. That is, it seems that one can admit that during one period of life, there is more concentration on activity, while in another period – on awareness. But it should still begin with the cosmization of the psychocosmos, and only then deal with the transformation of the external material world. One must first understand ‘who I am.’
Usually, there are no issues understanding the danger of absorption by activity, but the difference between “being” and a capture of being is often less obvious. To better understand the idea of a magician’s being in contrast to dissolving in the being of a mystic, one can recall the well-known differentiation in Eastern tradition between the Observer and the Witness. The Observer is one who simply notes what happens around them, not participating in it; they only contemplate but are by their nature foreign to the proceedings. The Witness is a participant in events who maintains a detachment to them: they are neither a criminal nor a victim, but they are not foreign to what is happening, although they are not identified with it. A magician in this sense is a witness of being; they do not hide from it, do not fear to not ‘get dirty,’ they walk on water, not immersing themselves in it nor fully leaving interaction. The magician is fully present in the current action but is not identified with it. This is exactly where the magician’s Power lies – they are manifested but not involved; they interact but remain free; they are conscious, and they are self-awareness.
You describe the Subject Outside of the Environment. Awareness consists of the Aware and the Aware-of. When the Aware-of stops including Something Principally New – Interesting – the Ouroboros transitions to Baphomet – development spirally and upward turns into movement through a closed ring, and the diameter of the ring dynamically decreases until the ring squeezes down to a point. Consciousness is a spiral stream, like an engine needs fuel to continue moving – Awareness. “Fuel” is the energy that Consciousness Extracts From the Interesting. When we are children, many things are interesting to us – toys, parents, the world – we have an interest in exploring our sensual experiences and the world beyond what we already know – we have time and material resources provided by our parents (referring to normal families) – but then we grow up – roles change, and we must provide for ourselves, our children, help our parents. In the process of maturation, we develop stable algorithms – automations – action images, allowing us to extract and transform the necessary resources to sustain our state of life. People assert themselves in these Action images, Images of Thinking, and Self-Repeat, Self-Repeat, Self-Repeat… This perception and Awareness of repeating cycles, stages of human life – their own and those of people met along the Way over time become Totally Uninteresting – Less and Less Energy is extracted From Outside, the life of the Consciousness – Spiral Flow transitions into a mode of maintaining life through internal resources, and the System devours itself – the Ouroboros having turned to Baphomet devours its tail and compresses to a point – Existence transitions to non-existence without a conductor of awareness and without the possibility of development…………………………………………………………………… To become aware of the Uninteresting is Uninteresting……………………………………………………………. I forgot to mention about the products of the technogenic civilization, which tries to give people something new, or rather a surrogate of new (food for awareness) – feature films, video games, coffee flavored with sausage, crackers with the taste of mumiyo…………………but in the end Consciousness realizes that all films are based on a dozen repeating scenarios, and “New” rituals become as uninteresting as crackers with new flavors……………..
Max, if we reason on a global scale regarding choice, I agree with ‘programming.’ Essentially, it doesn’t exist. The meaning of life is that you are born, and thus must exist. The very purpose of Creation is in constant development. But this development must comply with the Laws of the Creator. If there is a strong bias, the world is erased, and everything starts anew.
Max: When a human’s energy exceeds 1kin, they become essentially immortal, meaning that by becoming a sorcerer, you gain a degree of non-embodiment of consciousness at the moment of death. A magician can change worlds entirely, that is, along with the soul, maintaining integrity, and meaning retaining memory. Tavita, I know someone who has gained such independence. As far as I know, to become independent, not a resource, one needs to go through many battles.
Well, if you know, please share the information…
Hello Enmerkar. I have a question that concerns me, but I do not know how to ask it correctly. Suppose we take as an example a certain social group, let’s say primitive hunters, we can also take as an example a modern team of sales managers, some insurance agents, etc. An important condition will be that each member of the group conducts their independent activity aimed at obtaining prey, and the obtained prey becomes their property. While the other group members have no share in their success. In conditions of limited resources, one can say that they are competitors to each other. And let’s say in such an environment one of the group members practices some energetic discipline, as a result, their internal tension increases. Suppose this increase positively affects their hunting success. And everything would be fine, but then they track a very strange pattern. Other participants in the hunt, their so-called competitors completely lose luck. When the main character loses their tone, a favorable wind blows to their competitors, but when they regain tension, their competitors run aground again. I read your article about producers and reducers and it is convenient to say that it is all about a world where mutual devouring reigns, that ordinary people are completely incapable of generating and creating. But it is precisely the presence of this anomalous element that led to such a state of affairs; without it, the process would have continued. So maybe the matter lies in the greed of the anomalous element, its insatiability which accumulates all bounty. And in the days of downfall, those around it do not feed on its tension, and as a result they flourish, but just break its chains of greed and others gain freedom?
Hello! As I understand it, the point is that one of the group members can draw all the energy of Luck (Hamingya) from all group participants and dispose of it independently. When their “grasp” weakens, Hamingya returns to its “owners”. Well, this can also be viewed as a form of predation – pulling energy onto oneself, which rightfully does not belong to you.
But what to do if there are no intentional actions for drawing it, yet the result is there? I read the article “the shining unicorn”; based on what is written there, the way out seems to be in mobility, avoiding the stagnation of tension, which distorts and accumulates luck from those around it. But the presence of an anomalous element will still introduce imbalance into the situation. There is no way to get around it. And what you write about induction, after all, the advantage will still lie with the anomalous element; perhaps intense activity will trigger induction or at least discharge the tension that is choking those around?
“No intentional actions” often means a lack of awareness of the driving forces and motives. That is – desires, striving – exist, but they are not conscious. And the way out is, of course, first of all to realize these motives, impulses, strivings, then find their roots, and only then redirect energy at the root level.
An interesting question. I will also add. Theoretically, the energy of luck has one of its components as the energy of attractiveness/attraction. Therefore, the following situation is possible: The character who prepared the most attractive luck, which is much more attractive to all(!) elements of the external world – yes, will attract them all(!) to himself. Figuratively speaking, he has a very powerful magnet. And the others have weak magnets. However, in practice, there are so many elements of the external world, and the components of various individual lucks are so complex that preparing such a charge of luck is an extremely challenging and meticulous, dynamic job – to do it as you describe. And I suspect there are probably no (or almost none) magicians with such abilities in this world, not that level of development and interests, shall we say. Practically, most likely the mentioned character is indeed using the collective field of other participants and redirecting their luck, as in a collective/group setting, access to luck generally becomes shared. And those boundaries of own-common are hardly perceptible to most people… and thus the collective leader often starts believing that this luck is only his when, in reality, it is not.
Q, allow me to add. There can be several options: 1. It is not about energy but diligence. Spirits invest more resources in those who live brighter. Grey is needed by no one. Variant 2, which I lean towards more: The magician is dark, that is, has a dark dominance. If this is the case, such consequences for the others are acceptable. If the magician is light, then such consequences are a sign of his unskillful actions. Which can be fraught for the magician himself.
I recommend reading S. Lukyanenko’s “Night Watch, Day Watch.” This author is integrated into the magical community, and his works contain a lot of useful information.
I’m reading your book “The Roads of the Mage,” and I have a question about hunting. The ritual you describe, is it always voluntary? I mean, is it possible for a person to find themselves in such hunting conditions without their own will and even not understand what is happening to them? That is, a person understands that this is a hunt, they understand that they need to get through it and at least survive, but they don’t understand how they ended up in these conditions, why this is happening, what it actually is, or how it will end. And this happens repeatedly. How can this be explained?
And also regarding the previous question: it is unclear who exactly this hunt is directed at and who needs it, if the person is not the initiator of this hunt themselves.